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Established 2005
Vickers Viscount Network
A Virtual Museum dedicated to the Vickers-Armstrongs VC2 Viscount

Vickers Viscount Network

January 2010 Newsletter




Dear Member


Welcome to the first 2010 edition of the Vickers Viscount Network Newsletter - Judging by the exchanges of goodwill passing around the readership in the Festive Season there are definite signs that the idea to share our views and experiences is an excellent one and should be continued, or rather, re-instated! Regular readers will notice we`ve adopted a new magazine style layout to make it easier for you to find the information that interests you the most. We hope you like it!



NEW NEWSLETTER CO-ORDINATOR - DAVE ROBINSON


In January we broadcast the need for someone to assist with the uploading of the newsletters on to the website. "The Team" comprising site founders and the research team members were encouraged by the rapid response that flowed in either offering help or displaying willingness to help if circumstances permitted. It was appreciated that many others took the trouble apologising that for some reason or other they were not able to assist. Overall, this displayed an appreciation for the overall website and also recognition that the newsletters serve a useful purpose. Thank you everyone for your patience. The fact that you are reading this newsletter signifies that we now have someone who has stepped up and accepted the role of putting the newsletters on the site. On behalf of all of us, thank you Dave.



THE PLUNA VISCOUNT


PLUNA Viscount c/n 400 CX-BJA. PLUNA Viscount c/n 400 CX-BJA.



Emails aplenty circulated on this subject during mid January. John Chapman from Perth, Australia will visit South America in the near future and is going to try and trace it. He has been given revised co-ordinates of its location. Watch this space.




ROAMED TO ROME

Viscount c/n 284 I-LIRG. Viscount c/n 284 I-LIRG.


Grahame gph@graysands.com has drawn attention to a Google sighting of a Viscount V.798D in a Rome backyard. Comparison of the Google Earth sighting and our latest photo show it to be c/n 284 I-LIRG. Look at: Listings>> Aircraft Histories>> key in 284 and press the GO button.

Looking at Google Earth, there are many references to Viscounts but not all will produce a photograph. It would be ideal to have a record of all the Viscounts that could have a Google photograph. Some of the Google images now show the date the aerial photograph was taken.



WEBSITE MENU PROMPTS


By now most of you will be quite familiar with the layout of the website and already know how to navigate quickly to the items that interest you. For new readers though we thought it might be helpful to draw your attention to some of the gems buried a little deeper in the site. There are a few we think are particularly worthy of mention. These appear in the newsletter as green text with these symbols >> directing you to menu sub items from the drop down lists that appear when your mouse hovers over the main item. - Happy Hunting.


WEBSITE UPDATES


USE OF PHOTOGRAPHS


Geoff Blampied and Brian Burrage receive requests to "buy, borrow, use" etc photographs for other publications and media. Because of copyright issues, the site founders have an explicit policy of not making material on the site available for copying. Although this may not sound user friendly, it must be remembered that material is kindly donated by contributors and out of respect, a determined effort is made to protect their copyright. While on this subject, if you do have any queries as to photo origin references, please contact Geoff. - From The Main Menu: - About Us >> Contact us >> Website Production.



PHOTOS - A PLEA FROM THE WEB MASTERS


We get many offers to supply photos. Brian has a standard plea to donors, "We need scans of at least 600 DPI / 500 KB to produce a decent sized image on the website". Sending them in this format would save Brian and Geoff a lot of work and should see your pictures on the website that much sooner. Not that they would refuse smaller DPI photos, it`s just that the correct sizes are easier to prepare for uploading and generally take precedence.

To see the photo gallery of an aircraft featured: From The Main Menu: - Photos>>



YOU CAN SEARCH BY CONSTRUCTION NUMBER - HAVE A GO!


BKS Viscount c/n 225 G-APNF. BKS Viscount c/n 225 G-APNF.

Select the Construction Number or Registration that you are interested in, e.g. EI-AJW or 225, then press GO.

Note that you can scroll to the right of each photograph for a snap shot on what's new in the photograph department. Note too that the pictures are now presented in thumbnail fashion.




WEBSITE PHOTOGRAPH LAYOUT


Geoff has recently altered the way in which photographs are presented on the site and there are two new pages on the photos menu. These are:

PHOTOS BY CONTRIBUTOR: This page serves to give contributors better recognition of their assistance and also to make it easier for the contributor to keep tabs on what they have had uploaded.

LATEST 50: This page serves to show progress on the uploading of new photos. Thumbnail format makes it easier to see at a glance what is new. It is recommended that you save the LATEST 50 page as a favourite and to visit it regularly so that it will be easier to determine what has been uploaded since your last visit. The thumbnail idea drew a favourable response and has therefore been introduced to the individual aircraft photo files and also the contributors` files. Brian Burrage, who has extensive file listings on the site, has page numbers. Double click on a page number to reveal what is loaded. Some were getting too big to wade through one photo at a time.

These changes came from recommendations within the website production team however it is stressed that there is no reason why anyone with a good idea cannot put an idea forward for consideration. The site is for the benefit of all aviation enthusiasts and by pooling expertise we can strive to make the site as efficient as possible.



NEW LINKS


As we continue to expand new links are being added. From The Main Menu: - Links>> Aviation Groups>> you will see the current status.



CORRECT PRESENTATION


As the site continues to grow, visitors and existing members have come to regard it as the definite source of correctness and in time they may rely on it in publications and in the news media.

One of our Canadian correspondents has made an observation that fits exactly into the growing definitive trend of our website. He has kindly noted the correct presentation of the name of their Viscount airline. It is Trans-Canada Air Lines. There is a hyphen in Trans-Canada and there are two words Air Lines rather than Airlines.

Similarly, in Australia, it is Trans-Australia Airlines not Trans Australian Airlines. Can you spot other airlines which are misrepresented on the site?

Some might look on this as petty and pedantic but it is not. Please don`t be put off by this call for correctness - the end result is we want website information entries to be published in their correct format. You would hate to see incorrect decals on an otherwise immaculate model.



THE VIRTUAL MUSEUM


To provide information and photos for inclusion in the Virtual Museum please send them to information@vickersviscount.net. - Photos should be scanned as jpgs at 600 dpi or over.

If you need help scanning your photos then contact Brian Burrage at brian.burrage@vickersviscount.net. who provides the Vickers Viscount Network Quality, Secure and FREE scanning service.


MEMBERS' CORNER


LIGHT HEARTED BUT TRUE VISCOUNT MOMENTS:


IF YOU have a light hearted moment to share, please send it direct to both the Newsletter Editors for consideration. We have one up our sleeves which is associated with a longish story which we are holding over till the next newsletter. Following serves as an example of the sort of cameo we are looking for however it did not involve a Viscount.



Be Prepared!


In the days before New Zealand National Airways Corporation employed hostesses the co-pilot would check the DC-3 cabin to make sure everyone was strapped in properly and had read the safety card before take off. One lady on her first ever flight evidently had done the required reading. There she was complete with life jacket fitted ready to go . . .



PATTING TIGGY`S NOSE by Jack Stephens


"It was 86 degrees (fahrenheit) in the hot Tucson (Arizona) sun, on Nov. 17, (2008) as I reached up and patted Tiggy`s peeling nose. Anyone who worked for Transair (Canada) back in the sixties would immediately know who you were talking about. They lovingly gave her the nick name, as she faithfully took off and landed on many runways in Northern Manitoba communities. CF-TGI lent itself quite nicely, to ``Tiggy".

Transair (Canada) Ltd c/n 40 CF-TGI. C/n 40 CF-TGI "Tiggy"

Towns like Flin Flon and The Pas, got used to seeing this red and gold Viscount coming and going, even in the depths of a typical cold and snowy Canadian winter. Now she sits at the huge Pima Air and Space Museum in Tucson Arizona, one of some 275 aircraft.

The cactus, and sand blowing around her wheels is a far cry from snow and ice. Tiggy really belongs in Canada. If they had the room, my choice would be the Western Canada Aviation Museum in Winnipeg, after all, she rolled in front of the hangar, as our very first Viscount in 1954. Sporting ``601`` on her tail, Tiggy`s claim to fame is that on April 18 1955 all by herself and with 40 passengers to share in her glory, she introduced the first turbine powered service in North America. This famous flight was from Toronto to New York.

The Pima Air and Space Museum Viscount c/n 40 N22SN. The Pima Air and Space Museum Viscount c/n 40 N22SN.

The Curator of the museum was to meet me under her wings, so I had an hour to crawl around her, take photos, and shake my head at the deterioration. But then I am a bit worn since I worked on some of her accessories, over 55 years ago. I imagined my Dad inspecting her up on the overhaul dock at Winnipeg and my brother changing Tiggy`s tyres in the Line Maintenance Hangar. A spare Dart engine on a stand, sits in the shade of her wing. James the Curator told me she is on the list to be painted in silver metallic, with Trans-Canada Air Lines lettering. He mentioned that the cockpit and interior is complete. We are working with him and have provided the Coat of Arms of Canada for the door. Dave Peters who heads up the restoration team at the British Columbia Aviation Museum in Sidney BC on CF-THG dug up the drawings.

Just before I said goodbye to James, I asked him if there was any interest in the aircraft. He said I was the only one he can recall enquiring, and he has been there 12 years. ``People, just don`t know about the Viscounts, and the present generation is more interested in war planes and the space age.`` - Canada celebrated its 100th anniversary of powered flight in 2009, let`s not forget Tiggy, and her proud place in North American and particularly Canadian commercial aviation.

Viscount c/n 40, a V.724, was built for TCA - Trans-Canada Air Lines as CF-TGI



From Louis Dightmaker concerning TRADAIR VISCOUNT G-APZC - sometime around 1962/3


During PDI on the pan at Rochford/Southend, one of the engine gauges was reported U/S & an instrument fitter was called out of bed to change the gauge. Departure time was scheduled for 02:00, positioning empty to (I think) Berlin Templehof. The fitter drew one from the somewhat meagre parts store and was left to do the swap whilst the Captain, Co-pilot and myself, 22 yr old ``flight engineer``(actually FLYING engineer would be a better job title as there wasn`t much to do until arriving - then everything would be left to me on one of our two ex-Aer Lingus V707s) - anyway we went to search out some hot coffee whilst the fitter did his bit.

Tradair Viscount c/n 34 G-APZC. Tradair Viscount c/n 34 G-APZC.

An engine instrument change is simple on the Viscount - remove the two thumb nuts at the top of the central panel ahead of the centre console holding the ``throttle`` and then hinge the panel rearwards and down, (it`s hinged at the bottom), until it hangs on its two restraining wires. Disconnect, remove, replace, reconnect, test then reposition and secure the panel. Test, sign off, call the aircrew, get a signature from the captain - job done - and go back home to bed. Easy. No problem with a ``slot`` - Ted in the tower seemed glad to see us taxi away, to hold for checks, clearance given and rolling.

As usual for take-off I stood in the cockpit between and rear of the pilots holding onto the seat backs. Always a special moment as we gathered speed before arrowing into a gentle climb-out into the smooth night air. But not this time! At around 85kts the entire centre panel with its gauges, wires and sundry bracketry just fell out and smashed itself onto the throttle quadrant, trapping the co-pilot`s hand whilst he held the levers in the take-off position.

Several gauge glasses broke and his hand was trapped between the levers and the wrecked panel. The levers had been retarded virtually to idle by this and in the ensuing pandemonium, the Captain applied full wheel braking and we came to an eventual stop not too many yards from the runway end with smoking red-hot brakes. I managed to lift the panel and gauges away so that the co-pilot could free his lacerated hand. There followed a remarkably calm two-way with the tower and we taxied back to the pan, shut down and just sat quietly for a couple of minutes with pulses gradually slowing and imagining what might have been the outcome. Examination of the panel revealed that the instrument fitter had not refitted the two thumb nuts.

Viscount c/n 34, a V.707, was built for Aer Lingus as EI-AGI.

Remember: "ALWAYS CHECK YOUR NUTS."


FEEDBACK


MYSTERIES SOLVED AND HELP REQUIRED
ARE THERE ANY VISCOUNTS FLYING!


Solving or resolving this inquiry is one of the primary objectives of the site.

Viscount for sale in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Viscount for sale in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Every reader of this site would love to know if there are any Viscounts still flying or flyable. We have received various inquiries about this possibility. There is one advertised for sale by Olivier Manzambi Kavako, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, who has been in touch with our website. The aircraft is advertised on the website www.avitop.com. Currently this seems to be the most likely candidate to return to air. Wouldn`t it be great to have a Viscount in the air show circuit? Let`s keep our eyes and ears open for the possibility of finding other candidates which might be capable of reactivation. Watch this space!



VISCOUNT XT661


RAE - Royal Aircraft Establishment Viscount c/n 371 XT661. RRE - Radar Research Establishment Viscount
c/n 371 XT661.

Colin Bryan has written in mentioning his experiences in flying in Viscount XT661 in use at the RRE - Radar Research Establishment, Pershore. XT661 was last heard of at Bruntingthorpe in Leicestershire but there have been no recent reports about it.

Can anyone out there supply us with an update, which can in due course be loaded on the website? Thanks.

Viscount c/n 371, a V.838, was built for Ghana Airways as 9G-AAV.



CAPITAL AIRLINES ADVERTISING POSTERS


Ken Lonewolf of Charlotte, North Carolina enquires, "Are there reproductions of advertising posters available for purchase, showing Vickers Viscount aircraft in the old Capital Airlines markings? I would love to have one or two, if available. Sad that these wonderful airplanes are not still being built, as they would serve well on domestic runs here in America, as well as on international runs in Europe." Geoff Blampied says There are reproduction posters of adverts made by Vickers for the Viscount available in the UK but I do not know of any for Capital Airlines. In response, Editor Ed Jones has supplied two Capital Airlines poster adverts.

Vickers Poster featuring a Capital Viscount.
Capital Airlines Poster featuring a Viscount.


WHERE ON EARTH ARE YOU?


Many interesting emails come in from around the world. Often these are just signed off with only a name but it may not be readily apparent as to where you are based. We would like to know; not to be nosey but to get an idea where the membership is spread and what areas are active.

You can load details such as location, associated websites into the email "signature" option which is linked with the email Insert function. (Country or Region is sufficient).



"LAST VISCOUNT AT HEATHROW DAY". Request from Malcolm Ginsberg.


BWA - British World Airlines Viscount c/n 382 G-APEY. BWA - British World Airlines Viscount c/n 382 G-APEY.

Having been involved with the Viscount for many years, actually flown by both George Edwards and Jock Lowe, and organised "the last Viscount at Heathrow day" I am anxious to try and find some photographs taken on that occasion. If you can help Malcolm please contact him at PO Box 1315, Potters Bar, Herts, EN6 1PU or

Tel: 01707 665454 - Mobile & Text: 07973 210631
Website: www.ginsberg.co.uk
E-mail: malcolm@ginsberg.co.uk



WANTED - HURN APPRENTICES


Vickers Viscount c/n 456 G-ASDV taken at Hurn April 1964. Vickers Viscount c/n 456 G-ASDV taken at Hurn April 1964.

Tom Byrne is inquiring after fellow apprentices from his days at Hurn. He started working there in the mid 1950s as a 15 year old apprentice. In November 1959 he transferred to English Electric in Stevenage. English Electric soon joined up with Vickers, Bristol, and Hunting Clan to form BAC. He recalls Ray Breakingbury, who has supplied photographs on the net of CF-TGL and G-ASDV. If you were at Hurn in the latter 1950s, please make contact t.g.byrne@btinternet.com. Tom would be very pleased to hear from you.



Are you a problem solver? Would you like to test your skills at research?


Then look no further than our Mystery Page Help us identify these Viscounts by selecting: From the main menu: Home>> Help us Identify These Viscounts>>.

Eric Melrose is trying to establish what Viscounts he flew in way back in 1974. Eric is not alone in trying to complete that personal logbook, and sometimes these mysteries do get solved. ``I found your website some time ago when I was trying to find photographs of a couple of Viscounts I flew in, in 1965. I also have been trying to find out which aircraft I flew on, on 24th May 1974 when I went from Aberdeen to Birmingham via Glasgow. That day I flew on BE8117 ABZ to GLA on a Viscount then on from GLA to BHX BE872 on a BAC 1-11. On the return flight because the BAC 1-11 had developed a technical fault in Paris I was re-routed on BE7814 BHX to EDI then on BE8119 EDI to GLA and then on BE8126 GLA to ABZ all on Viscounts; in total four flights on Viscounts that day.`` I have tried everything to trace which Viscounts these were with no luck. I have consulted the local library and gained access to the old Aberdeen Airport Traffic Control Log Books but unfortunately they do not record the registrations of aircraft used on scheduled flights, using the Flight Codes instead. I have also been in touch with the British Airways Museum at Heathrow in the hope they would have the aircraft logs but was told they were just too numerous and bulky to retain. Apart from that day I also flew on another trip to Glasgow on 10th July 1974 on BE8117 returning on the following day 11th July 1974 to Aberdeen on BE8126 again both flights on unknown Viscounts. - Any information which might help me determine the identity of these Viscounts would be gratefully received.? - An after thought, does anyone know where the aircraft logs are located?

Eric mentions he has an extensive photographic collection and has offered to check through the Viscount photographs to see if he can fill any gaps on the website photo archive. Thanks Eric.



THREE MONTH SALES TOUR OF AFRICA


Viscount c/n 3 G-AMAV. Viscount c/n 3 G-AMAV.


Colin Crossley recently submitted photos of G-AMAV which went on a three month sales tour in Africa, commencing on 15 August 1955.

Does someone know the route that was taken? Ideally we would like to report the day by day port of call log?

Does anyone know where logbooks may be located that will reveal this information?



VISCOUNT DVDs


Viscount Promo/Cine Film Wanted for DVD Project:

Henry Tenby, of Vancouver Canada, produces a range of classic airline DVD`s and would like to get the word out that he is looking for Viscount promo films (from Vickers or airlines), as well as video and/or cine film of the Viscount. He already has a lead on some TCA Viscount newsreels including a colour TV news report from 1974 on the retirement of the fleet from Air Canada.

The idea is to compile enough footage to release 1-2 hour DVD titled "Vickers Viscount Memories" to complement his existing "Coventry Viscount and Vanguard" DVD: http://henrytenby.com/DVDs/CVTdvd.html. Be sure to view the online video clip for some very nice footage! - Henry can be contacted at henry.tenby@vickersviscount.net.


RESOURCES

WEBSITES:


www.propliner.co.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Viscount
www.aviationancestry.com/

David Russell has also alerted us to this one about the Air Rhodesia Viscounts, RH825 and RH827, shot down by terrorists. -
http://home.iprimus.com.au/rob_rickards/viscounts/viscounts.htm


BOOKS:


Vickers Viscount - 104 page book by Robin Macrae Dunn (Airliner Tech Series Vol. 11).

The Vickers Viscount - 480 page book produced by Rayner G C Kittle.



MODELLERS:


A TIP FOR USING LETRASET


Mike Barlow, of the Ferrymead Aeronautical Society in Christchurch, New Zealand reports that he has used Letraset successfully for many years. ``Treat the Letraset as usual and press it down on some good quality decal sheet of the required colour before over coating it with varnish. I use a good quality modelling varnish; Microgloss or Floquil work well. Brush lightly or the Letraset will smudge, airbrushing is a better bet. Once dry, cut out the serial number or whatever and use like a normal decal. I have had good success with inkjet printing my own markings as well. On a larger model computer cut vinyl lettering will also give a good result.``

Carvair ZK-NWA converted from a Mach 2 DC-4 model. Carvair ZK-NWA model.
F27 model. F27 model.

I have done it successfully for a Kiwi Carvair, ZK-NWA, converted from a Mach 2 DC-4 model. Mike supplied photographs of his fine Fokker F-27 and Carvair models to illustrate the excellent results he is achieving with Letraset.

Mike continues, "The Friendship was built around 20 years ago using Letraset and the Carvair more recently using computer cut vinyl. For the Carvair model I was lucky enough to have some letterhead from Nationwide Air. I scanned it and played around until it was the correct size for the model and printed it out, then took the printout to a computer cut sign place. For NZ$15.00 I came away with the logos for the model. There are commercial systems available for printing your own decals. The one I purchased contained several sheets of clear decal sheet and a spray can of sealer to use after the sheet has been through the printer. Images can be scanned and printed. I had a bit of trial and error but if it`s the only way to acquire the required markings, what do you have to lose?"


AND FROM RICHARD STANTON


Channel Airways Viscount c/n 366 G-ATVE. Channel Airways Viscount
c/n 366 G-ATVE.

Richard mentions, "Nick Webb, who produces the colour artwork for the Viscount on the website, has progressed into producing Laser Printed Decals."

I thought I would mention it as I met him at the Aviation Enthusiast`s Fair at Kempton Park, and I purchased a nice sheet of 1/144 scale decals for the Viscount V.812 G-ATVE of Channel Airways.

He intends to produce these decals suitable for use with the S & M Models Viscount 800 kit, but may be persuaded to produce decals in other scales as well.

His e-mail address is: nick.webb@vickersviscount.net.



SOME MORE ON AIR CANADA


Bruce Trewin has alerted us to some nice pictures. Have a look at
www.jeanpierrebonin.com


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Photo of BEA - British European Airways Viscount G-AOJC

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